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Failed Prophesies of Revelation

The Book of Revelation (film)

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In part two of my Revelation series I will cover several prophecies’ which are not found in Revelation.  Despite their being outside of this controversial book they are connected.

Below is a link to Part 1:

Part 1: Why Revelation? 

The immediate issues at hand are these; are any of the prophecies in Revelation reliable?  Is Revelation happening now?  Finally, why should we believe or not believe anything from the Book of Revelation, or the bible?

Before I dig into whether or not Revelation is reliable, let’s see if the bible itself is a reliable source.  It is said that the most important words in the bible are those that are highlighted in red, or read as direct quotes from Jesus.  Personally, I would expect that an all-powerful god would have the courtesy to not allow his vile creatures distort his own words into something that would invalidate his message.  So why then does the Book of Mathew Chapter 16:28 announce the second coming of Jesus, and why didn’t Jesus hold true to his own words?

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. (KJV)

I added verse 27 for context which verifies what Jesus is saying here.  Jesus tells his disciples that he will be back before some of them experience death.  From other Christian sources and some historical footnotes we know that all of these men met the same fate we will someday.

What does this tell us?  Jesus Christ was mistaken; lying, a fraud, or his words were twisted in translation, or transcription. Any of these possibilities creates a plethora of problems for any prophecy in the bible.  If we can’t trust the predictions of Jesus Christ himself, then why should we trust the rather unknown source of Revelation?  Christ said he was coming within a generation, yet we should somehow believe that visions sent to a man about a distant future could be in any way legitimate?

Let’s just assume for a moment that the current doomsday Christians, or millennialists as they are.  Let’s assume that they have found the perfect combination of worldly events which match up to the prophesies in the book of revelation.  It is as if they fail to realize that there have literally been hundreds of notable Christians like Martian Luther, Irenaeus, Pope Innocent III, Saint Augustine, and many, many, many more, who have made the same claim.  After centuries on top of centuries of these people creating a feeling of imminent doom upon the world you would think we as intelligent beings would have learned something by now.  It doesn’t seem so bad, coming form Hal Lindsay, or TBN, that the “end is near”, but put yourself in the shoes of a peasant, in a kingdom where the papacy is the most powerful entity on earth.  Imagine the highest priest who claims to have divine authority over the kings and queens of the world, announces the end is coming.  Yet somehow, we have millennialists that think they have figured it out.  They have found the exact formula, and “any day now”, the Jesus, God, whoever is going to make the nonbelievers pay.  What a wonderful message, all thanks to the crap in the book of Revelation.

The interesting thing about Revelation in these modern times is the curious fact that many scholars now believe John the Evangelist didn’t author the book of Revelation, but now credit is given to an unknown source identified as John of Patmos.  Why is this significant?  Christian theologians are known for claiming that the validity of the bible comes from the sources themselves.  If we are now to believe that the source of Revelation is unknown, and in fact not the guy who wrote John 1,2, and 3, then why in the world of damnation should we care about some unverified source?  This is a major fallacy of Christianity, the appeal to tradition.  They would rather stand behind a text that was originally thought to be valid, though after closer inspection is invalidated, than rethink their position.  Don’t they realize that if they rewrite the bible they will make a lot more money?  Isn’t that what this whole thing is about to begin with?

So what exactly is the book of revelation saying?  There will be seven seals, and as they are opened before god, magical creatures materialize out of thin air.  The sixth seal talks about earthquakes, and falling stars, and mountains moving, and people hiding in the mountains, and the sun turning black.  Then there will be angels blowing trumpets to conjure even more hellish events upon the earth.  It talks about a third of the sea creatures succumbing to a green burning mountain, along with a third of the ships at sea.  A third of the ships at sea?  What about the jets, and the satellites and the astronaut’s in space?  What about cars and trains and buses?  Here is an example of the type of imagery spoken of in Revelation.

“the child. However, when the child is born, it is caught up to God’s throne while the woman flees into the wilderness for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. (12:5-6). War breaks out in heaven between ##Michael and the Dragon, identified as the Devil, Satan.(12:9) After a great fight, the Dragon and his angels are cast out of heaven for good, followed by praises of victory for God’s kingdom. (12:7-12). The Dragon engages to persecute the Woman, but she is given aid to evade him. Her evasiveness enrages the Dragon, prompting him to wage war against the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (12:13-17)”, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation).

If there was anything more cryptic than Nostradamus’s quatrains this would be it.  Yet, somehow Christians manage to pull from this book while alluding to current events and come to the conclusion that all this stuff is happening.  Never mind that 200+ Christians have predicted this very book coming to fruition before we were ever born.  Never mind that this has been the number one selling point of the religion since the purported death of Jesus Christ. Forget about the fact that Jesus said he would be back in the First Century CE.  Don’t worry about the fact that the guy who wrote this book doesn’t show up anywhere else in the bible.  Let’s not ignore the fact that imagery like stars falling to earth, and ALL the mountains moving would pretty much obliterate the entire population of the planet.  And all of this was created for us?  Thank you early Christians for this wonderful story about a god and how it created me in its image, will punish me for being created, and then kill me for not believing this ridiculous story.

I suggest people search the web for videos of all of the congregations that use this book like a coupon.  Just look at the worldly events they have been determined to be predictions of Revelation.  Admire the number of accusations of former and current presidents of the U.S. and other nations that have been labeled as Antichrist.

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Here is one example among thousands which impose prophecies from the bible onto our society.  So I suppose my question is;  how many times do you have to guess wrong before even you are convinced of the useless predictive capability of the bible, or to translate prophetic versus accurately?

The topic of this post was Failed prophesies of Revelation, so to sum it all up, the entire book has failed.  The evidence is in Jesus saying he will be back in the 1CE, which of course didn’t happen.  The verdict here is that the book of Revelation is a waste of time.  It serves little purpose to historians, Christians, or anyone for that matter.  So as I ended part 1;  tear that waste of paper out of the book and use it to stoke your fire.

Next week in Part 3 of the Revelation series I will discuss “A God that loves to destroy his creation”

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Why IS Revelation in the Bible?

The book of Revelation is a visionary tale of how the Christian world will end leading up to the second coming of their savior.  The scenes paint an image of a wrathful God poring vengeance upon the world to punish the nonbelievers.  Throughout history the message of Revelation attracted scrutiny, and in most cases within Christian religious organizations.  Perhaps there is a reason that Revelation was the last book officially canonized, and perhaps there is a reason why it is in such heavy use today.  These are a few of the topics I wish to discuss in part one of my Revelation series.

One of the first notable Christian figures to sideline Revelation was Eusebius who was an early Christian historian. He wrote “church history”, c 325CE.  As a result of his studies he placed the book of Revelation on the Antilegomena list, or disputed works.  Roughly one hundred years after the cannon had been assembled Revelation was finally accepted and canonized at the council of Carthage c. 397CE.

Eusebius of Caesarea may have continued the Li...

Over the centuries disputes over this book have been nearly constant.

There are several ways Christian sects deal with this particular text.  The following four interpretation styles are simply container folders for many other interpretations.

Historicist, this explanation focuses on the historical value within the text, and shies away from the prophetic use of the book.

  Preterist, similar to the Historicist view the Preterist angle tags Revelation as pertaining only to the 1st or 2nd century CE.

    Futurist, this understanding of Revelation embraces the book as a marker for things to come.  People or churches which fall under this category can also  be called millenialists.

    Idealist, finally Idealists see the book as entirely allegorical.

There are of course many other interpretations of Revelation, and some are a mix between these four main categories.  Still, the futurist Revelation concept has caused a rather fanatical conglomerate of Christians in America.  I actually have friends and family members who subscribe to this interpretation.  Sadly, the lifestyle many of them have chosen as a result of this one book is social suicide at best.  The following video is from a small ministry, but it illustrates the illogical view Revelation has caused in modern society.

For the past two thousand years Christians and the like have assumed (ass-u-me) the end was near.  The crusades were supposed to be Armageddon.  Mass suicides in the 1800′s and early in the 20th century were attempts to get Gods attention.

So why the book of revelation?  Out of all the books in the bible, Revelation seems to have, not only the most deliberate placement, but also the most doctored message.  “BE AFRAID AND JOIN US!” which I am absolutely positive was not the message Jesus brought with him, and it is solid proof that the bible has HUMAN ambitions, and not super natural.

Cliché clippings from Revelation are the “mark of the beast”, and “antichrist”, in both cases a futurist Christian will go ape-shit when talk of ID chips, or artificial anything inserted into a person’s body comes up.  In the same regard any politician or leader of a nation they find imposing on their beliefs become the target of name calling.  For instance Bush and Obama were labeled as Antichrists.  This is surprising since Republicans are more often in line with the Christian perspective.

To conclude I would like to address any Christians who may have stumbled upon this post.  Please heed the following, or don’t… (notice how I didn’t say Please heed the following, or spend the rest of your life in an inferno.) Just saying…

Please, End-times-Christians?  Think about what you are doing when announcing to the world, full of flocks (people that don’t think for themselves.), that this person-or-that-person is the antichrist, and to be afraid of this menacing persons capabilities.  As a Christian, you shouldn’t care anyway, so it should be of no consequence to you anyway.  Stop being part of the problem and quite your tongue in the matters that even you need not worry about.

Please, please, Christians! Tear the book of Revelation out of your bibles, because it has absolutely nothing to do with your religion.  Please stop spreading fear into this world, and start doing what Christians ought to do. LOVE THY ENEMY/NEIGHBOR / FAMILY, and so on, or stone them to death depending on what verse you feel fits you today.

~~~Thanks for reading part one.  next week I will take on part two: Failed Prophesies of Revelation.~~~







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Boy Scouts of America: Should Gay’s be admitted?

I must say I agree with Penn Jillette on this and many issues.  It is the right of BSA to exclude anyone they wish, but I personally think they are wrong.  Appallingly Gays are not the only Americans BSA currently refuses to admit.  They also don’t allow Atheists, and Girls.

Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law on July 2, 1964, officially making any form of segregation illegal.  Yet, the civil rights movement didn’t end with the abolition of segregation.  The battle still rages on today.

While Americans for equal rights like myself are powerless against organizations like BSA in the matter of legal action.  We are powerful in our ability to spread information and to protest organizations like BSA on an individual basis.  If my daughter one day decides she wants to be a Boy Scout I will draw as much media attention as I can as we attempt to slay the beast.  Taking on organizations like BSA is a valuable learning experience, perhaps more valuable than anything BSA could teach her.

Also the government can close off national sites to the BSA until they treat all Americans equally.  Recently UPS Inc. said they will not donate to BSA until they lift the ban on Gays.  This is a step in the right direction.  President Obama’s pre-super bowl talk with CBS was another great leap forward.  The president announced on national television at a time when a sizable chunk of the American population was watching, that Gays should be allowed in Boy Scouts of America.

Religion in this case causes discrimination in America.


Works Cited

Daily Mail Reporter. (2013, February 3). Obama says Boy Scouts should end their 103-year ban on gay members as organization contemplates reversing policy. Retrieved from Mail Online: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272969/Obama-says-Boy-Scouts-end-103-year-ban-gay-members.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#axzz2K2tlNUbg

webmaster@BSA-Discrimination.org . (2012, October 12). BSA and Girls in Scouting. Retrieved from BSA-Discrimination.org: http://www.bsa-discrimination.org/html/girls-top.html


Next Week I will start the 5 part Revelation series.

Week 1: Why is Revelation in the Bible?

Week 2: Failed Prophesies of Revelation

Week 3: A God that loves to destroy his creation

Week 4: The mark of the Beast

Week 5: Revelation conclusion

Check back for this exciting series.

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Why Talk About Something I don’t Beleive In?

Why do Atheists bother to talk about religions?  A comical response… “because your God works in mysterious ways”.  Jokes aside, I used to be a believer.  Though theists will argue if I “claimed to be a believer, but now am not”, (the argument goes), I never was, *smirk, chuckle, sniff! This I find more comical since their strongest argument for the existence of a God is the “personal relationship” crap, and I claim to have personally believed in a God, yet my personal experience is wrong and theirs correct.  To this I say practice peeing into the wind; perhaps someday you will master the art of looking like a fool in front of an audience.

Admittedly I did an outstanding job for Christianity.  I helped to indoctrinate many people, and unfortunately some of those people are very close to me today.   Let me clarify.  It’s great that I am still close to my unwitting converts, but it’s sad that they took my word for it.  The most wretched bloody part is, at the time I was witnessing to people while regurgitating the polished poop for scripture that was drilled into my thoughtless mind by church elders and televangelists.

I must say it was a slow awakening for me.  It took half a decade of adulthood, a four year stint in the Army, and several years of college compounded with tens of thousands of hours spent investigating the innumerable problems with religion.  I came to the conclusion that if nothing else, the Christian brand of god is completely and utterly sick, self-contradicting, hateful, genocidal, baby killing, freakishly jealous,(more jealous than the worst jealous significant other story you could possible share), and completely limited as far as supernatural power goes, to the human imagination that is.

After coming to this most studious revelation, (pun, pun), I became angry.  I know. I know. That reaction is probably not the best considering Jesus freaks like to point out angry people and call them possessed, thus adding some kind of clique cred to their fellowship as they throw up jazz hands and attempt to exercise the demons while jabbering nonsense at each other.   WTF-ever.  The moral of my story is this… Don’t expect people to be ecstatic after being spoon fed a two thousand year old story, (which is told only in bits and pieces), only to come to find the TRUTH, that it’s a big stinking heap of manure.

If you don’t like what I have to say, do what I did for the first quarter century of my life and plug your ears, close your eyes, and say “LaLaLaLaLaLaLa”, for all I care.  For everyone else, please enjoy my blog, share, comment, and for Humanities sake, use your fucking brain.

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